RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-)

Nick Hilliard nick at foobar.org
Mon Nov 8 16:08:53 CST 2010

On 08/11/2010 21:51, Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu wrote:
> So there's empirical data that It Does Indeed Matter (at least to some
> people).  

It certainly does.  However, there is lots more empirical data to suggest
that It Does Not Matter to most service providers.  We tried introducing it
to INEX several years ago.  Of 40-something connected parties, only one was
really interested enough to do something about it.  Another indicated
interest but then pulled back when they realised a) the amount of work it
would take to support it across their network, b) the scope for painful
breakage if they accidentally got something wrong somewhere and c) the
benefit they would get from it.

Probably most interesting aspect was the cost / benefit analysis.  One the
one hand, there was little to no benefit for end-users and hosted services
on the commercial ISP that showed interest.  However, the NREN which was
interested could have made real use out of it, in terms of dealing with
very speed single-stream data transfers.

Anyway, all of the arguments for it, both pro and con, have been rehashed
on this thread.  The bottom line is that for most companies, it simply
isn't worth the effort, but that for some NRENs, it is.

Let's move on now.


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