BGP and convergence time

Jay Nakamura zeusdadog at
Wed May 12 01:31:51 UTC 2010

Yes, I understand BFD.  The question is, do carriers usually do BFD
with customers?  And if they say no, are there other remedies?  AT&T
doesn't seem to be even willing to change BGP timers.  If anyone have
been able to talk AT&T or Qwest in doing so, it would really help to
find out how they convinced them.  They are such a big bureaucracies
that it's frustrating to do anything that makes sense.  Although Qwest
seems a lot more responsive than AT&T.

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Randy Bush <randy at> wrote:
>> I am looking for ways to detect neighbor being down faster so traffic
>> can be re-routed faster.

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