any "bring your own bandwidth" IPv4 over IPv4 tunnel merchants?

Gregory Edigarov greg at
Mon May 3 18:27:00 UTC 2010

On Mon, 3 May 2010 14:12:45 -0400
Bill Bogstad <bogstad at> wrote:

> Like many people, I can't justify the expense of "commercial" IP
> connectivity for my residence.  As a result, I deal with dynamic IP
> addresses; dns issues; and limitations on the services that I can host
> at my residence.  It just struck me that in the same way that
> IPv6 connectivity can be done via tunneling over IPv4 (Hurricane
> Electric, etc.), that static IPv4 addressability could be offered in a
> similar fashion.
> Some my question is:
> Does anyone offer (probably bandwidth restricted) IPv4 over IPv4
> tunneling (with static IPs) commercially?
> I realize that making use of such a service MIGHT violate Terms of
> Service agreements, but that is going to vary from provider to
> provider and doesn't make offering such a service inherently wrong.
> Other possible reasons such services might be desired include wanting
> access to Internet services which are regionally restricted.  (Again
> TOS violation possibilities MAY or MAY NOT apply.)
> In the (very?) long term, IPv4 over IPv6 tunneling could end up being
> one way that organizations can get IPv4 connectivity when the default
> changes from only-IPv4 to only-IPv6.  (Yeah, I know that day may never
> come...)

Holly shit... Where do you live? In Ukraine we have almost no
difference (well it is different from one company to another) between
commercial and residental setups. At least it is so with smaller
providers like one I have at home and one I work for (they are two
different companies).
So it seems very very strange to me you need to justify anything with
your network operator. 

With best regards,
	Gregory Edigarov

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