Advice regarding Cisco/Juniper/HP

Greg Hankins ghankins at
Thu Jun 17 22:03:25 UTC 2010

Changes to the Brocade and legacy Foundry support sites are in progress.

The candid comments from the community expressed here in numerous threads
this year have captured your frustration for me to explain to management
in far better words than I can write myself.  I've had several mail and
phone conversations with the team in charge of our support site about our
current practice of requiring a login to access documentation, and they
understand why this is not at all helpful and a bad way of doing business.
It's the way it is for various historical reasons.

Product documentation will be freely available on the new MyBrocade support
site that is under construction.  This is part of a huge effort to integrate
the disparate support sites' software, knowledge bases, manuals, etc. into
one new happy place.

Stand by, and thanks for your patience.

(works for Brocade)

Greg Hankins <ghankins at>

-----Original Message-----
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 14:12:40 -0700
From: Kevin Oberman <oberman at>
To: William Pitcock <nenolod at>
Cc: nanog at
Subject: Re: Advice regarding Cisco/Juniper/HP 

> From: William Pitcock <nenolod at>
> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:35:30 -0500
> On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 11:07 -0700, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> > On 6/17/2010 11:01, Sandone, Nick wrote:
> > > I would also add Brocade/Foundry to the mix as well.  We've been deploying these switches with great results.  Since the IOS is very similar to Cisco's, the transition has been quite easy.
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > Do you still have to pay them to read the manual?
> We have plenty of Foundry gear and we've never had to pay anything to
> read the manuals for them.  Then again, we bought it all new, so it came
> with printed manuals.
> There's a 1000+ page manual on the management software itself.

The Brocade manuals are good, but you need to have a customer account to
access them. Very annoying when you are trying to do an evaluation.

I have spoken with one of their engineers about that and he said that
they (the engineers and sale folks) are trying to get that changed.
R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
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