Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers

Joe Greco jgreco at
Wed Jun 9 17:17:02 UTC 2010

> >> What I don't want to see which you are advocating... I don't want to see
> >> the end users who do take responsibility, drive well designed vehicles
> >> with proper seat belts and safety equipment, stay in their lane, and
> >> do not cause accidents held liable for the actions of others. Why should
> >> we penalize those that have done no wrong simply because they happen
> >> to be a minority?
> > 
> > I agree, on the other hand, what about those people who genuinely didn't
> > do anything wrong, and their computer still got Pwned?
> Fiction.
> At the very least, if you connected a system to the network and it got Pwned,
> you were negligent in your behavior, if not malicious. Negligence is still
> wrong, even if not malice.

So, just so we're clear here, I go to Best Buy, I buy a computer, I 
bring it home, plug it into my cablemodem, and am instantly Pwned by
the non-updated Windows version on the drive plus the incessant cable
modem scanning, resulting in a bot infection...  therefore I am 

Do you actually think a judge would find that negligent, or is this
just your own personal definition of negligence?  Because I doubt that
a judge, or even an ordinary person, could possibly consider it such.

... JG
Joe Greco - Network Services - Milwaukee, WI -
"We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I
won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN)
With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.

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