Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Tue Jun 8 15:33:46 CDT 2010


Dave,

I realize your fond of punishing all of us to subsidize the ignorant, but I would rather see those with compromised machines pay the bill for letting their machines get compromised than have to subsidize their ignorant or worse behavior.

Owen


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On Jun 8, 2010, at 1:12 PM, dlr at bungi.com (Dave Rand) wrote:

> [In the message entitled "Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers" on Jun  8, 16:03, "J. Oquendo" writes:]
>> 
>> All humor aside, I'm curious to know what can anyone truly do at the end
>> of the day if say a botnet was used to instigate a situation. Surely
>> someone would have to say something to the tune of "better now than
>> never" to implement BCP filtering on a large scale. Knobs, Levers, Dials
>> and Switches: Now and Then (please sir, may I have some more ?) is 7
>> years old yet I wonder in practice, how many networks have 38/84
>> filtering. I'm wondering why it hasn't been implemented off the shelf in
>> some of the newer equipment. This is not to say "huge backbones" should
>> have it, but think about it, if smaller networks implemented it from the
>> rip, the overheard wouldn't hurt that many of the bigger guys. On the
>> contrary, my theory is it would save them headaches in the long run...
>> Guess that's a pragmatic approach. Better that than an immediate
>> pessimistic one.
>> 
> 
> It's really way, way past time for us to actually deal with compromised
> computers on our networks.  Abuse desks need to have the power to filter
> customers immediately on notification of activity.  We need to have tools to
> help us identify compromised customers.  We need to have policies that
> actually work to help notify the customers when they are compromised.
> 
> None of this needs to be done for free.  There needs to be a "security
> fee" charged _all_ customers, which would fund the abuse desk.
> 
> With more than 100,000,000 compromised computers out there, it's really
> time for us to step up to the plate, and make this happen.
> 
> 
> -- 




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