Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers

Dorn Hetzel dhetzel at
Wed Jun 9 00:45:38 UTC 2010

Perhaps a government operated black-hole list, run by same friendly folks
that run the no-fly list, with a law that says no US ISP can send packets to
or accept packets from any IP on the list.
Now that would be some real fun to watch! :)

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Dave Rand <dlr at> wrote:

> [In the message entitled "Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers"
> on Jun  8, 14:30, Brielle Bruns writes:]
> >
> > Legit customers get caught in the cross-fire, and they suffer - but at
> > the same time, those legit customers are the only ones that will be able
> > to force a change on said provider.
> >
> > They contact us, and act all innocent, and tell people we're being
> > unreasonable, neglecting to tell people at the same time that the
> > 'unreasonable' DNSbl maintainer only wants for them to do a simple task
> > that thousands of other providers and administrators have done before.
> >
> I'm somewhat familiar with the concept :-)
> But yes, this indeed is currently the only effective way to cause change
> at the ISP level.  Ferg is very correct in that Change Is Coming at
> the goverment level.  That is the wrong place for it to happen, but it
> will also be very effective.
> I'm hopeful that more networks will take it upon themselves to make it
> happen
> before it is forced on them.
> --

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