Inquiries to Acquire IPs

James Hess mysidia at gmail.com
Sat Jul 3 00:12:27 UTC 2010


On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
> Crist Clark wrote:

An interesting if disturbing thing to see...   I suppose there is a
possibility that some IP address speculator is trying to er, acquire
interesting  /24s  in anticipation of RIR address exhaustion.

I have doubts that an unsolicited e-mail sender intends that proper
policy be followed. especially since they didn't well,  in that
unsolicited introduction,  even bother with a pretense of a legitimate
assignment reason for PA that would be valid,  such as buying    IP
connectivity or transit services.

they would probably like things recorded as a simple assign with
anonymized contact info. Presumptively if their intent is nefarious,
they just need to fool one ISP...

> > According to Whois data, you company owns the following
Has been assigned, not owns.  ARIN RSA  Section 9.   No property rights.

>>> PI (Provider Independent) or PA (Provider Assigned) status?
> They would have to justify their need with ARIN prior to the transfer
> actually taking effect, but, this is now allowed for /22 and shorter
> under NRPM 8.3 (for better or worse).

They think PA  means  "Provider Assigned"?  PA conventionally means
really provider aggregable,    and according to ARIN policy  ASSIGNED
PA space is for use  in connection with network services  obtained
through  the provider  assigning it,  ARIN NRPM 2.4, 4.2.1.1,
4.2.3.1,   4.2.3.4.1,   4.2.3.7.1.

Blocks in the middle of an ISP allocation cannot be changed to PI
blocks by providers these days,  not without a transfer approved by
ARIN anyways.

At some point  ARIN  added  requirements to the RSA,  that require ISPs
to refrain from permanently assigning rights to blocks of IP
addresses,  when IP addresses are assigned to users.

The only way anything assigned directly by an ISP could be PI is back
before the requirements were added to the RSA, if
the ISP assigned the IP block,  without  making the user  promise to
'return the addresses', and  only if  the user who got the assignment
never  later agreed they would return IP addresses  when services
ended....


ARIN RSA 15(a)(i):  "(i) Except as provided in 15(a)(ii), Applicant
may not assign or delegate this Agreement or any of its rights or
obligations under it, including without limitation the exclusive right
to use the number resources allocated or assigned to it, without
ARIN’s express written permission,
(ii) The event of any transaction (whether a merger, acquisition, or
sale) in which Applicant’s controlling managerial and/or voting
interest changes during the term of this Agreement shall be considered
an assignment, so long as the Applicant provides ARIN with written
notification within thirty (30) days of such assignment."



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-JH




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