more news from Google

Joe Greco jgreco at
Thu Jan 14 02:56:30 UTC 2010

> On Jan 13, 2010, at 5:26 PM, msheldon at wrote:
> > From a single detection of one hostile email you can often expand the picture to many mail recipients.  A little open source research identifies the common community the recipients belong to.  It's pretty straight forward.
> > 
> The magic phrase is "traffic analysis" -- look at the accounts of 
> known targets of interest, and see the usernames, IP addresses, 
> etc., of their correspondents.  Recurse as needed.

This could, however, go beyond traffic analysis.  What happens when 
China slaps Google by taking over "" and places a web site
that appears to be Google there?

This then leads to the interesting question of exactly what sort of
things were taken from Google (which is what I guess based on 
"corporate infrastructure [...] theft of intellectual property).

Is it completely outside the realm of possibility that China might
have stolen sufficient technology to replicate resources such as
Google search and mail?  Or things such as SSL certificates?  I keep 
thinking about it, and it seems to me like Google decided it was
better to cry fire now...  before Chinese citizens ended up submitting
searches to "" and having them intercepted and analyzed by
the Chinese government.  There are, of course, numerous possibilities
as to what's really going on, but whatever it is, I get the distinct
feeling that we're getting a carefully spun story.

... JG
Joe Greco - Network Services - Milwaukee, WI -
"We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I
won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN)
With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.

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