"Cyber Shockwave" on CNN
owen at delong.com
Sun Feb 21 06:36:48 UTC 2010
On Feb 20, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
>> At least the US has a written constitution and the concept of the
>> people being sovereign.
> and a room im sf where at&t hands all their internet and voice to the
> nsa. right. and the list is long. internet and voie traffic are no
> longer private in the least sense. and cisco builds taps into all the
> devices. it goes on and on.
Voice over IP over IPSEC is still relatively private.
Internet over IPSEC or bi-directional keyed (auth+enc) SSL is still
Anything else never really was, even if it wasn't the government listening
to you before.
Agreed about the gov't throwing the constitution out the window, however.
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