"Cyber Shockwave" on CNN

charles at knownelement.com charles at knownelement.com
Sun Feb 21 03:51:51 UTC 2010

Alright can someone moderate this thread and shut it down please?

------Original Message------
From: Tomas L. Byrnes
To: andrew.wallace
To: Randy Bush
Cc: nanog at nanog.org
Subject: RE: "Cyber Shockwave" on CNN
Sent: Feb 20, 2010 7:49 PM

Right, because GCHQ doesn't/hasn't/never would do such a thing...

At least the US has a written constitution and the concept of the people being sovereign.

I'll take that over trusting "Her Majesty's..." whatever.

But then again, I'm Irish, so I have a bit more direct personal and familial experience of the darker side of British "civilization". (EG: While detention without trial is relatively NEW in the US, it's been a fact of life in the UK for most of its history).

> -----Original Message-----
> From: andrew.wallace [mailto:andrew.wallace at rocketmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 2:13 PM
> To: Randy Bush
> Cc: nanog at nanog.org
> Subject: Re: "Cyber Shockwave" on CNN
> --- On Sat, 20/2/10, Randy Bush <randy at psg.com> wrote:
> > From: Randy Bush <randy at psg.com>
> > Subject: Re: "Cyber Shockwave" on CNN
> > To: "andrew.wallace" <andrew.wallace at rocketmail.com>
> > Cc: nanog at nanog.org
> > Date: Saturday, 20 February, 2010, 21:58
> > > It looks like this demo is
> >
> > a bunch of sick press and sick ex-gov wishtheycouldbeagains
> > trying to
> > get as much mindshare as they can.  and you're helping
> > them.
> >
> > randy
> >
> I refuse to let you say I am helping them -- I am from UK, I don't
> agree with them wanting to allow The NSA to take over private sector
> networks or citizens smart phones 'in an emergency'.
> Andrew

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