Recycling old cabling?
jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net
Wed Aug 18 01:05:30 CDT 2010
I know of a guy that was terminated for "stealing" CAT5 that he was
instructed to throw in the dumpster.
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Frank A. Coluccio <frank at fttx.org> wrote:
> All of the larger telcos and power utilities have been 're-smelting'
> copper for decades. Verizon (nee NY Telephone) had a copper smelting
> plant on Staten Island at one time that recycled all of the used
> cross-connect wire and cables removed from underground and poles. Telco
> main distribution frame personnel were, and very likely still are,
> instructed to use "copper-scrap" bags for depositing small bits and
> pieces of copper wiring collected at cleanup time at the end of work
> shifts. Many years ago, copper, for this reason, was one of the three
> "C"'s that no one would mess with. Copper and Cash were two.I'll leave
> the third one to the reader's imagination.
> This subject is interesting because it's one of the cost-justifiers in
> business models that seek to re-engineer large office buildings and
> other copper-intensive venues where the objective is to replace all
> copper wiring with hybrid fiber-wireless alternatives. While
> reclamation through salvage is only a by-product of this movement, it
> is nonetheless one that is cash intensive, so it cannot be overlooked.
> Not only is the copper data cabling removed (Cat3/5e/6, in this case),
> but also potentially tons of power cables and racks supporting
> sometimes hundreds of riser telecom/LAN closets, where there are
> usually anywhere from two to four closets per floor, depending on the
> size of the floor plate, in a forty- or sixty-story building, say.
> Every copper penny helps these days.
> --- streiner at cluebyfour.org wrote:
> From: "Justin M. Streiner" <streiner at cluebyfour.org>
> To: nanog at nanog.org
> Subject: Recycling old cabling?
> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 07:29:50 -0400 (EDT)
> Just out of curiosity, is anyone here recycling old cabling and plant
> infrastructure for their raw materials, or engaging a recycler to
> those materials? Where I work, there is almost always a renovation
> project going on. This provides opportunities to rip out
> Cat3/Cat5/long-abandoned thicknet/thinnet/FDDI-grade fiber/etc, which
> normally do. Most of the time that old cabling ends up in the
> but I'm wondering if anyone is recycling it, either by their choice, or
> the result of company policy or relevant laws in your area?
> Cat3/Cat5 can be broken down to raw materials with some effort, but I
> haven't seen many recyclers with an economically viable process for
> it. Coax is a bit tougher, but not impossible (same questions about
> economic viability still apply). Fiber can be tough, expecially if
> dealing with something like 20+ year old gel-buffered cable where the
> long-since dried out.
> I'd be interested to hear other peoples' experiences along these lines.
Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team
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