40 x /18's and an ASN - was Re: Lightly used IP addresses

Jeffrey Lyon jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net
Sun Aug 15 02:46:56 UTC 2010

The vendor I referred to earlier that does not support IPv6 explained
this in a private meeting, not a sales pitch. We already use their
products extensively. The discussion was more to the tune of "we
developed IPv6 support but stopped including it in the firmware
releases because no one was using it."

I informed them that we would use it so possibly by EOY we can have
IPv6 support (note: I don't know if Telia and BandCon even support
IPv6 yet? Yet another hurdle.)


On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Frank Bulk <frnkblk at iname.com> wrote:
> This week I was told by my sales person at Red Condor that I'm the only one
> of his customers that is asking for IPv6.  He sounded annoyed and it seemed
> like he was trying to make me feel bad for being the "only oddball" pushing
> the IPv6 feature requirement.  I tried to explain to him that by this time
> next year IANA will likely have handed out all their IPv4 blocks and that I
> didn't have the time spend the first half of 2011 implementing IPv6 across
> my $DAYJOB network, but wanted to spread that work over time.  To his
> credit, it's been on their to-do list for at least 6 months if not a year,
> it's just been pushed back several quarters.
> Frank
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Owen DeLong [mailto:owen at delong.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 10:27 AM
> To: Jeffrey Lyon
> Cc: John Curran; nanog at nanog.org; Ken Chase
> Subject: Re: Lightly used IP addresses
> On Aug 13, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:
>> John et al,
>> I have read many of your articles about the need to migrate to IPv6
>> and how failure to do so will impact business continuity sometime in
>> the next 1 - 3 years. I've pressed our vendors to support IPv6 (note:
>> keep in mind we're a DDoS mitigation firm, our needs extend beyond
>> routers and switches) and found that it's a chicken and egg situation.
>> Vendors are neglecting to support IPv6 because there is "no demand."
>> I've pointed out your articles and demanded IPv6 support, some are
>> promising results in the next several months. We will see.
> I was at a trade show several months back. I watched a series of people
> walk up to a vendor and each, in turn, asked about IPv6 support. The
> vendor told each, in turn, "You're the only one asking for it."
> I walked up to the vendor and took my turn being told "You're the only
> one asking for it." I pointed out that I had seen the other people get
> the same answer. The sales person admitted he was caught red
> handed and explained "We're working on it, but, we don't have a
> definite date and so our marketing department has told us to downplay
> the demand and the importance until we have something more
> definitive."
> <snip>
> Owen

Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team
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