Lightly used IP addresses

Frank Bulk frnkblk at
Sun Aug 15 02:34:28 UTC 2010

This week I was told by my sales person at Red Condor that I'm the only one
of his customers that is asking for IPv6.  He sounded annoyed and it seemed
like he was trying to make me feel bad for being the "only oddball" pushing
the IPv6 feature requirement.  I tried to explain to him that by this time
next year IANA will likely have handed out all their IPv4 blocks and that I
didn't have the time spend the first half of 2011 implementing IPv6 across
my $DAYJOB network, but wanted to spread that work over time.  To his
credit, it's been on their to-do list for at least 6 months if not a year,
it's just been pushed back several quarters.


-----Original Message-----
From: Owen DeLong [mailto:owen at] 
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 10:27 AM
To: Jeffrey Lyon
Cc: John Curran; nanog at; Ken Chase
Subject: Re: Lightly used IP addresses

On Aug 13, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:

> John et al,
> I have read many of your articles about the need to migrate to IPv6
> and how failure to do so will impact business continuity sometime in
> the next 1 - 3 years. I've pressed our vendors to support IPv6 (note:
> keep in mind we're a DDoS mitigation firm, our needs extend beyond
> routers and switches) and found that it's a chicken and egg situation.
> Vendors are neglecting to support IPv6 because there is "no demand."
> I've pointed out your articles and demanded IPv6 support, some are
> promising results in the next several months. We will see.
I was at a trade show several months back. I watched a series of people
walk up to a vendor and each, in turn, asked about IPv6 support. The
vendor told each, in turn, "You're the only one asking for it."

I walked up to the vendor and took my turn being told "You're the only
one asking for it." I pointed out that I had seen the other people get
the same answer. The sales person admitted he was caught red
handed and explained "We're working on it, but, we don't have a
definite date and so our marketing department has told us to downplay
the demand and the importance until we have something more



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