net-neutrality

Mark Smith nanog at 85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org
Wed Aug 11 06:17:47 CDT 2010


On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:52:53 +0000 (UTC)
Sven Olaf Kamphuis <sven at cb3rob.net> wrote:

> Hi, considering the fact that several organisations have been severely 
> undermining net-neutrality over the past few months,

What is your definition of violating net-neutrality?

Is it 

(a) carriers ransoming content providers so that only then will the
content providers receive fair, equal and unfettered access to the
carriers' customers?

or

(b) applying QoS to customer traffic if necessary because TCP was
designed to suck up all the bandwidth available (to try to achieve 100%
return on investment in the network capex), based on an original
assumption that there'd be short bursts of TCP traffic, and now some
applications, particular P2P ones, which use TCP, now create constant
rather than bursty load on the network, resulting in congestion and
impacting latency sensitive applications such as VoIP and gaming?



> which they seem to 
> see as less important than their copyright bullshit, we have decided to 
> set an example:
> 
> Should the following networks, to which list more will be added over the 
> coming month, desire to exchange traffic with AS34109, they can obtain a 
> traffic relay contract at sales at cb3rob.net, the costs of which amount 
> to 10000 euros per month, excl. 19% VAT, if not, well, then it's simply no 
> more internets for them... sorry peeps.
> 
> 
> 193.108.8.0/21#GEMA-NET
> 195.109.249.64/29#SONYMUSIC
> 195.143.92.160/27#SBMG1-NETS
> 212.123.224.240/29#Net-WEGENER-MEDIA-BV
> 212.123.227.64/29#BumaStemra2
> 212.136.193.216/29#BUMA
> 212.78.179.240/28#BUMA-STEMRA
> 213.208.242.160/29#NL-COLT-BUMA-STEMRA
> 217.148.80.112/28#NL-NXS-CUST-1004613
> 85.236.46.0/24#IX-UNIVERSAL-NET
> 
> 
> -- 
> Greetings,
> 
> Sven Olaf Kamphuis,
> CB3ROB Ltd. & Co. KG
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