Terry Childs conviction

William Pitcock nenolod at systeminplace.net
Thu Apr 29 21:37:16 CDT 2010

On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 21:23 -0500, Larry Sheldon wrote:
> On 4/29/2010 21:05, William Pitcock wrote:
> > On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 21:48 -0400, David Krider wrote:
> >> On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 16:47 -0500, William Pitcock wrote:
> >>> Surely even at DeVry they teach that if you refuse to hand over
> >>> passwords for property that is not legally yours, that you are
> >>> committing a crime.  I mean, think about it, it's effectively theft, in
> >>> the same sense that if you refuse to hand over the keys for a car that
> >>> you don't own, you're committing theft of an automobile.
> >>
> >> I've seen a dismissed employee withhold a password. The owner of the
> >> company threatened legal action, considering it, like you, theft. My
> >> father-in-law is an attorney, so I asked him about the situation. He
> >> said that it wouldn't be called "theft," rather "illegal control." 
> > 
> > Same difference, he still committed a crime and anyone who is defending
> > him seems to not understand this.  Whatever we want to call that crime,
> > it's still a crime, and he got the appropriate penalty.
> I beg to differ (the archives may reflect my objection last time around).
> I agree that a crime was committed.
> It was committed by the management that allowed this situation to exist.
> It is a pretty easy matter to maintain controls that make the passwords
> secure but still available to management when they need it.  The
> simplest system was one of sealed envelopes in several different
> District Managers locked desks.  Every now and again a manager would
> take his or her envelope out and test the passwords to see if they
> worked (usually just before the scheduled password change each month).

I don't disagree, but he should not have withheld passwords to devices
that were not his direct property when asked by a superior.


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