[Re: http://tools.ietf.org/search/draft-hain-ipv6-ulac-01]

Thu Apr 22 18:23:23 UTC 2010

On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Bill Bogstad <bogstad at pobox.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:03 AM, David Conrad <drc at virtualized.org> wrote:
>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 10:48 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
>>>> So what happens when you change providers? How are you going to keep
>>>> using globals that now aren't yours?
>>> use pi space, request it from your local friendly RIR.
>>
>> And don't forget to invest in memory manufacturers and router vendors :-)
>
> Only required if those addresses are advertised to the Internet.
> Which is apparently NOT
> what people want to do with it.   In addition, it seems like the RIRs
> frown on not publishing your IPv6 PI allocations.  If you go this

this is commonly held up as a reason that getting allocations is hard,
but the infrastructure micro-allocations are never to be seen in the
global table.

It woudl be super nice if some kind RIR people could comment here, I
believe in the ARIN region all you NEED to do is provide a spreadsheet
showing your utilization, checking for the routes in the 'DFZ'
(bmanning-summons) isn't relevant for additional requests.

> route, be sure to 'justify' as large an allocation as you could ever
> possibly imagine using because you'll only get one bite from that
> apple.

see previous comment, I believe this is a red-herring.

>
> Or maybe someone could offer to advertise these deliberately
> unreachable addresses for a small fee and then null route any stray
> packets that happen to want to get
> there.   Would this satisfy the letter (if not the spirit) for
> justifying PI space?

you still have to provide SWIP, RWHOIS or some other accounting of the
usage (spreadsheet/csvfile seems to be historically acceptable)

-chris

> Bill Bogstad
>
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