IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering

Patrick W. Gilmore patrick at ianai.net
Mon Oct 12 16:49:02 UTC 2009

On Oct 12, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Deepak Jain wrote:

> Perhaps someone from HE can re-confirm their open peering policy for  
> us?
> If they aren't (open) anymore, I'm impressed by the bravado...

To be clear, I was not trying to imply that HE has a closed policy.   
But I can see how people might think that given my Cogent example.  My  
apologies to HE.

And to be fair, I'm pounding on HE because they've always cared about  
their customers.  I expect Telia to care more about their own ego than  
their customers' connectivity.  So banging on them is nonproductive.

In summary: HE has worked tirelessly and mostly thanklessly to promote  
v6.  They have done more to bring v6 to the forefront than any other  
network.  But at the end of day, despite HE's valiant effort on v6, v6  
has all the problems of v4 on the backbone, PLUS growing pains.  Which  
means it is difficult to rely on it, as v4 has enough dangers on its  

Anyway, I have confidence HE is trying to fix this.  But I still think  
the fact that it happened - whatever the reason - is a black eye for  
the v6 "Internet", whatever the hell that is.


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marco Hogewoning <marcoh at marcoh.net>
> To: Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick at ianai.net>
> Cc: NANOG list <nanog at nanog.org>
> Sent: Mon Oct 12 12:15:34 2009
> Subject: Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering
> On Oct 12, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>> It is sad to see that networks which used to care about
>> connectivity, peering, latency, etc., when they are small change
>> their mind when they are "big".  The most recent example is Cogent,
>> an open peer who decided to turn down peers when they reached
>> transit free status.
>> I never thought HE would be one of those networks.
> Do we have any proof it's HE rejecting peering or is it that Cogent en
> Telia alike that are to proud to ask and think they can have a piece
> of the pie as they did with v4 ?
> MarcoH

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