Upstream BGP community support

Andy B. globichen at
Mon Nov 2 11:16:08 UTC 2009

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Richard A Steenbergen <ras at> wrote:
> But seriously now, the reason we have these squishy things taking up
> space between our ears in the first place is so we can come up with new
> ideas and better ways to solve our problems. Obviously you can take it
> too far, I'm sure we've all seen examples of absurdly over-complicated
> designs which existed only for the edification of someone's ego, but I
> have never seen a intelligent and well thought out BGP community system
> do anything other than make everyone's life easier. I don't know who
> these people are who you claim are busy breaking things with
> communities, but I've never seen them. Being clever is a good thing when
> it helps you find new ways to do more with less, and those who can't
> innovate in this industry are dooming themselves to obsolescence.

That being said, how can we (me, my company, nanog, ...) possibly do
to convince someone like HE, who wants to be a global player, to
support BGP communities?
I'm not that good at baking cakes, but HE seems to be doing pretty well at that.
I know that some engineers from HE are in this list; maybe they can
give us some insight as to why they believe communities are worthless.


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