Upstream BGP community support

Richard A Steenbergen ras at
Mon Nov 2 10:56:11 UTC 2009

On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 05:19:32AM -0500, Randy Bush wrote:
> i try to use as few tricks, knobs, and clever things as possible and
> still get my job done.  i try to be extremely conscious of, and minimal,
> when what i am doing effects or is visible to my neighbors and/or the
> global net.  
> i try to complicate the internals of my network as little as possible,
> after all, complexity == opex and i value my time, it is a non-renewable
> resource.
> i prefer to be seen as an old and lazy minimalist, not a clever person.
> clever was a pejorative where/when i was brought up.


<randybush> You damn kids! Get off my lawn!

But seriously now, the reason we have these squishy things taking up
space between our ears in the first place is so we can come up with new
ideas and better ways to solve our problems. Obviously you can take it
too far, I'm sure we've all seen examples of absurdly over-complicated
designs which existed only for the edification of someone's ego, but I
have never seen a intelligent and well thought out BGP community system
do anything other than make everyone's life easier. I don't know who
these people are who you claim are busy breaking things with
communities, but I've never seen them. Being clever is a good thing when
it helps you find new ways to do more with less, and those who can't
innovate in this industry are dooming themselves to obsolescence.

Richard A Steenbergen <ras at>
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