Redundant AS's

Hank Nussbacher hank at
Sat Mar 21 17:48:50 UTC 2009

On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, Heather Schiller wrote:

> I don't think old vs new really matters.. pardon me for sticking w/ ARIN in 
> this example.. I can follow their fee structure easiest - and doesn't have 
> the old vs new:  (
> ARIN charges $100/yr for ASN's  ... any "compensation" for returning an ASN 
> should be less than the $100 they charge?  Would it make any financial sense 
> to compensate someone $500 for returning an ASN that only generates $100 a 
> year?  (Remember that the RIR's are non-profits..)

Well old vs new does have consequences.  I have many ASNs issued since 
1996, yet they were never charged.

See 2006:
"Note: AS Numbers, PI IPv4 and IPv6 special purpose assignments issued 
before 1 October 2004 will NOT count toward the 2006 billing score." As it 
had been up till that point.

Yet in 2007:
that rule changed and suddenly older allocations were suddenly billed. 
So a LIR that issued ASNs to customers and only charged them a one-time 
fee in 1996-2006 (processing and handling) is suddenly saddled with 
additional costs that they can no longer pass on to the customer.

I wonder what ARIN did in that regards.


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