Cogent input

Warren Bailey wbailey at
Thu Jun 11 23:33:59 UTC 2009

Does GBLX still have their data center in Chinatown(NYC)??? I remember about 10 years ago how amazed I was with that place... 

----- Original Message -----
From: John van Oppen <john at>
To: Paul Timmins <paul at>; Justin Shore <justin at>
Cc: NANOG <nanog at>
Sent: Thu Jun 11 15:31:24 2009
Subject: RE: Cogent input

NTT (2914) and GBLX (3549) both do native v6...  most everyone else on
the tier1 list does tunnels.  :(

There are some nice tier2 networks who do native v6, tiscali and
come to mind.


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Timmins [mailto:paul at] 
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:00 PM
To: Justin Shore
Subject: Re: Cogent input

> I hope at least some SPs make this commitment back in the states.  I 
> can't find any tier-1s that can provide us with native v6.  Our tier-1

> upstream has a best effort test program in place that uses ipv6ip 
> tunnels.  The other upstream says that they aren't making any public 
> IPv6 plans yet.  It's hard to push the migration to v6 along when 
> native v6 providers aren't readily available.

GlobalCrossing told me today I can order native IPv6 anywhere on their 
network. Don't know if they count as Tier 1 on your list, though. VZB 
has given me tunnels for a while, hopefully they'll get their pMTU issue

fixed so we can do more interesting things with it.


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