[SPAM-HEADER] - Re: Point to Point Ethernet - Email has different SMTP TO: and MIME TO: fields in the email addresses

Rod Beck Rod.Beck at hiberniaatlantic.com
Sat Jul 11 11:02:59 UTC 2009

Brian Raaen wrote:
>> Hate to say it, but also some of the cost on the circuits can be blamed
>> on uncle Sam. ATM circuits are currently tariffed that same way are
>> voice circuits. These tariffs are not charged to Ethernet because it is
>> a 'data circuit'. At least that was the case a little while back.
>Are you sure it's "Uncle Sam"?  My experience is that voice tariffs are
>always cheaper than data; telco's mantra is still "I Smell Dollars Now".

>The telcos were mightily pissed when we redesigned protocols to pass over
>voice circuits instead of requiring data circuits.

>Usually, non-tariffed lines seem to be much more expensive, as the account
>manager says "Oh, that special order will have to be approved by HQ".

Strictly speaking, it's not Uncle Sam, but the PUCs who review the tariffs. 

I would view it fundamentally as a lack of competition. Who can provide ATM backhaul from central offices? In many cases just the incumbent.  

Roderick S. Beck 
Director of European Sales 
Hibernia Atlantic 

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