Yahoo and their mail filters..

Jo Rhett jrhett at
Fri Feb 27 04:26:12 UTC 2009

On Feb 25, 2009, at 8:14 AM, Ray Corbin wrote:
> It depends on your environment. I've seen where it is helpful and  
> where it is overwhelming. If you are a smaller company and want to  
> know why you keep getting blocked then those should help. If you are  
> a larger company and get a several hundred a day, but you send 100k  
> emails to AOL then it is not as big of a deal. If you are a shared  
> hosting provider and you get a lot of them you should look into what  
> is being sent to AOL, such as forwarded spam from customers 'auto  
> forwards' (isolate the auto forwards to a separate IP address and  
> simply don't sign up for the FBL for it).... If you have a good  
> setup where only customer-originated email is being sent through the  
> IP's you have a FBL on, then it is useful and you shouldn't get as  
> many complaints.

Ray, you don't get it.   What comes from AOL is literally every step  
in a mother-daughter conversion.  You get to read the entire thread.   
Loving chat, mother and daughter back and forth.  But one of them is  
hitting SPAM on the e-mail *AFTER* replying to it and writing a nice  
letter back.

This is abuse of the abuse department.  This isn't spam.  Reading  
through ~3k of these not-spams every day doesn't help us solve any  
actual abuse problems.

Feedback loops will not be useful until the providers of the feedback  
loops accept reports about use of the spam reporting tools, and are  
willing to go fix their user behavior.

Jo Rhett
Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source  
and other randomness

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