allocation to verizon wireless

Jeffrey Lyon jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net
Sun Feb 8 04:06:28 UTC 2009

Whatever happened to NAT?


On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Jeff S Wheeler <jsw at inconcepts.biz> wrote:
> Dear list,
> Since IPv4 exhaustion is an increasingly serious and timely topic
> lately, I would like to point out something that interests me, and maybe
> everyone else who will be spending a lot on Tylenol and booze when we
> really do run out of v4 IPs.
> I have trouble understanding why an ARIN record for a network regularly
> receiving new, out-sized IPv4 allocations on the order of millions of
> addresses at once would publish a remark like the one below, indicating
> that Verizon Wireless has about 2 million IPs allocated.
> OrgName:    Cellco Partnership DBA Verizon Wireless
> Comment:    Verizon Wireless currently has 44.3 Million
> Comment:    subscribers with 2.097 Million IP addresses allocated.
> RegDate:    2008-04-14
> This may be unscientific and full of error, but if you add up all the
> IPs behind AS6167, you get a pretty big number, about 27 million.  If I
> make more dangerous assumptions, I might argue that a network with a
> need for 2 million IPs, at the time this /9 was handed out, already had
> about 19 million.  Then it received 8 million more.
> Sure, smart phones are becoming more popular.  It's reasonable to assume
> that virtually all cell phones will eventually have an IP address almost
> all the time.  But that isn't the case right now, and the ARIN is in the
> business of supplying its members with six months worth of addresses.
> If everyone is expected to run out and buy a new phone and start using
> "the Google" right away, and stay on it all the time, maybe cellular
> operators really need a lot more IP addresses.  If not, why does Verizon
> Wireless have 27 million IPs when the above comment indicates they need
> only a tenth of that?
> - j

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