v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)]

Matthew Moyle-Croft mmc at internode.com.au
Thu Feb 5 03:34:34 UTC 2009

Leo Bicknell wrote:
> In a message written on Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 11:58:33AM +1030, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:
>> My FEAR is that people ("customers") are going to start assuming that v6 
>> means their own static allocation (quite a number are assuming this).   
>> This means that I have a problem with routing table size etc if I have 
>> to implement that.
> Customers don't want static addresses.
Customers want many different things.  

Customers don't think of their networks at home or in their offices as 
part of an ISP network.  They think of it as an island that they control 
and run and which they buy connectivity to the internet to.  They want 
flexibility and not the "evil ISP" telling THEM what to do or making 
them spend money on their IT consultants to change things when an ISP 
wants to renumber.
> They want DNS that works, with their own domain names, forward and
> reverse.
Yep, but many want to run it themselves, independantly of an ISP.  

> They want renumbering events to be infrequent, and announced in
> advance.
Where infrequent = never. 
> They want the box the cable/dsl/fios provider to actually work,
> that is be able to do really simple stuff without having to buy
> another stupid box to put behind it.
Well, we let them chose here in AU ...
> None of these require static, and in fact I'd think it would be
> easier to get it right than it would be to do statics for most
> providers.  But, I must be wrong, since the only solution virtually
> every provider offers is to "move up" to "a static IP".
I think some customers would like us to spend money running DNS for them 
for free, but most who care want to do it independently of us.


Matthew Moyle-Croft - Internode/Agile - Networks
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