news from Google

Scott Weeks surfer at
Fri Dec 11 15:35:15 CST 2009

--- beckman at wrote:
From: Peter Beckman <beckman at>

  At least Google seems to be honest about it.

Yeah, trust them...

  What does Bing say they keep about you when you search, not logged into
  your Passport account?  IP + searches, date and time?  And what do they
  actually do?  

NOW you're getting warm.  What IS the difference in what a corp says they do and what they actually do?

  What about Yahoo, now that they will use Bing?  Or even
  AltaVista?  How do we know the difference between the reality of what they
  do versus their Privacy Policy?

Yahoo and Altavista are one and the same.  Excite is owned by who own many other companies that collect and make money from knowing what you do.  Webcrawler is owned by InfoSpace ( They are ALL making money doing the same thing. 

  You don't get to have Privacy on the Internet.  It's a fallacy.  You have
  to work really hard to truly have privacy on the 'net.  And lie a lot.

Yes, you have to work hard and (one last time :-) DBS.  Use your sniffers at home to see what's talking to what; manage your cookies; force your ISPs machinery to change your DHCP-assigned address a lot; use SSH tunnels, blah, blah, blah.

In FF goto "Tools", 'Options', 'Privacy', and select: "Accept cookies from sites'; 'Accept third-party cookies'; 'Keep until: <ask me every time> just to get a taste.  Be sure to click on 'Show Details' when the flood of cookies comes and pay attention to the details.  Don't go to sites that bork when you use these settings any longer.  Also, look in 'Show cookies' and 'Exceptions'.  Funny how M$ won't let you do that in IE AFAICT.


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