The real issue

Shane Ronan sronan at fattoc.com
Wed Apr 22 04:56:46 UTC 2009


> 'not my customer, not my issue, you REALLY need to talk to ASX who's
> their provider...'
>
> -Chris

I don't believe this is how most ISP's would respond or there wouldn't  
be RBLs.


On Apr 21, 2009, at 9:38 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Shane Ronan <sronan at fattoc.com>  
> wrote:
>> However if someone at ARIN had put in a call to say the top 10  
>> transit
>> providers and asked them to black-hole this space (which they might  
>> do)
>> then where would you have been?
>>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike Lewinski [mailto:mike at rockynet.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:54 PM
>> To: nanog list
>> Subject: Re: The real issue
>>
>> Shane Ronan wrote:
>>> Very simple, just do it.
>>
>> Ha! We have some legacy IP space in continous use here at ASN13345  
>> for
>> over 12 years now that was recently "revoked" for a few weeks (only  
>> to
>> be later restored via a transfer once the exact definition of
>> "ownership" in a member-owned cooperative was hammered out).
>>
>> Guess what stopped working in the interim? Well the whois records  
>> were
>> gone and our abuse desk probably had a tiny decrease in complaints  
>> as a
>> result. In some quarters that might be seen as a blessing, but we  
>> view
>> abuse reports as cries for help from infected hosts that will become
>> larger service outages if not addressed.
>>
>> Also the in-addr services went away, affecting about a half dozen  
>> mail
>> servers out of several thousand hosts in the "revoked" delegation. We
>> did not receive one single call or complaint about connectivity in  
>> that
>> duration apart from the in-addr loss, and those customers were  
>> offered
>> smart host use or replacement IPs for the duration. The ones who  
>> chose
>> the smart host continued to use the "revoked" IP space without  
>> problem
>> after that.
>>
>> The Internet's greatest strength and greatest weakness is the lack  
>> of a
>> central authority who can "just do it". I for one am happy it is that
>> way. It's part of what makes us an *autonomous* system, sovereign  
>> of our
>>
>> own little kingdom.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
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