The real issue

Christopher Morrow morrowc.lists at gmail.com
Wed Apr 22 04:38:25 UTC 2009


On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Shane Ronan <sronan at fattoc.com> wrote:
> However if someone at ARIN had put in a call to say the top 10 transit
> providers and asked them to black-hole this space (which they might do)
> then where would you have been?
>

'not my customer, not my issue, you REALLY need to talk to ASX who's
their provider...'

-Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Lewinski [mailto:mike at rockynet.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:54 PM
> To: nanog list
> Subject: Re: The real issue
>
> Shane Ronan wrote:
>> Very simple, just do it.
>
> Ha! We have some legacy IP space in continous use here at ASN13345 for
> over 12 years now that was recently "revoked" for a few weeks (only to
> be later restored via a transfer once the exact definition of
> "ownership" in a member-owned cooperative was hammered out).
>
> Guess what stopped working in the interim? Well the whois records were
> gone and our abuse desk probably had a tiny decrease in complaints as a
> result. In some quarters that might be seen as a blessing, but we view
> abuse reports as cries for help from infected hosts that will become
> larger service outages if not addressed.
>
> Also the in-addr services went away, affecting about a half dozen mail
> servers out of several thousand hosts in the "revoked" delegation. We
> did not receive one single call or complaint about connectivity in that
> duration apart from the in-addr loss, and those customers were offered
> smart host use or replacement IPs for the duration. The ones who chose
> the smart host continued to use the "revoked" IP space without problem
> after that.
>
> The Internet's greatest strength and greatest weakness is the lack of a
> central authority who can "just do it". I for one am happy it is that
> way. It's part of what makes us an *autonomous* system, sovereign of our
>
> own little kingdom.
>
> Mike
>
>
>

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