Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer

Andrew D Kirch trelane at
Sun Sep 21 18:16:15 CDT 2008

Russell Mitchell wrote:
> Andrew:
> If you have seen how Spamhaus handles our resolved SBL Listings, you 
> would know.
> Those 6 listings have been resolved for a week now. John Reid and 
> his goons only provide swift LISTINGS, _NOT_ delistings.
Possibly why they're so widely used.
> In the past 12 months, I have received not 1 report of a botnet on our 
> network.
Your e-mail is broken, or you're a liar, or both
> Phishing pages are always nullrouted at the time of the report. The 
> "40 page report" you keep referring to is a complete farse.
it's 'farce' but that couldn't matter less.
> But, undoubtably, you truly believe that there is an "Atrivo" and 
> InterCage is a "partner in crime" to Atrivo huh?
 Results *1* - *10* of about *26,900* for atrivo.
 Results *1* - *10* of about *2,390* for *atrivo crime 
 Results *1* - *10* of about *1,880* for *atrivo fraud 
 Results *1* - *10* of about *1,100* for *atrivo phish*.

It seems that at least 26,900 people join me in the first fantasy, and 
6000 or so join me in the second.  Cult meetings are on Thrusday, we'll 
sacrifice a spammer.
> Anything else you'd like to throw at me here on NANOG?
Sure, but I havn't figured out how to hit someone with a two-by-four 
over the Internet. 
> I truly feel that there are very FEW in the anti-abuse community 
> that smelling fresh air. If you knew where you head was, and where it 
> should be, maybe this conversation and the happenings in the recent 
> week would have actually gave benefit to the internet in whole.
Atrivo/Intercage is off the Internet.  That sounds like Mission 
Accomplished to me.

I'm done now, there's clearly nothing I can do to impart a clue here.


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