Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream

Gadi Evron ge at
Wed Sep 17 12:01:02 CDT 2008

On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Skywing wrote:
> Putting things in the automated bogon feeds (e.g. Team Cymru) that are not strictly bogons (unallocated addresses) is likely to very quickly erode trust in those services, if that is what you are suggesting.

We all want a "really really bad stuff" BGP feed for anyone who wants it, 
but the Internet is not ready for that.


> - S
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lamar Owen <lowen at>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 09:26
> To: nanog at <nanog at>
> Subject: Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream
> On Tuesday 16 September 2008 23:36:20 *Hobbit* wrote:
>>    you expect them to apply a null route?
>> Well, I *have* been talking somewhat idealistically here and
>> there with this crop of questions, but frankly I thought in the
>> 2 or 3 years I was ignoring the list that the NETWORK OPERATORS
>> ostensibly in custody of the intertubes would have pulled things
>> together a little better and grown enough of a pair to firmly
>> state "this crap stops here and now" and make it happen.
> :-)  Speaking as an observer only, and not as someone who, other than at my
> own edge, could make a significant impact on the result.
> Seems to me getting that IP space on a bogon list could be enough to make a
> serious dent.

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