community real-time BGP hijack notification service

Randy Bush randy at
Sat Sep 13 02:21:02 CDT 2008

i am occasionally asked if there have been real bgp attacks (not slips).
the answer is, of course yes, but there are none which can be publicly
described.  when bucks and embarrassment are involved, security through
obscurity seems to rule.

but tony and alex did us an enormous favor by publicly conducting such
an attack, see

so, what i want to know is which, if any of the tools being discussed on
this thread *actually* did or could detect and/or mitigate the tony/alex
defcon attack.

i appreciate the dozens of tools that detect and mitigate finger or
brain fumbles.  but those are not where the black hats are gonna go to
make the big bucks.


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