BCP38 dismissal

Patrick W. Gilmore patrick at ianai.net
Thu Sep 4 12:41:41 CDT 2008


On Sep 4, 2008, at 1:12 PM, Jo Rhett wrote:

> Patrick, it would appear that you are insulting me by your choice of  
> quotes but from content one would assume you agree with me.  Perhaps  
> next time quote the idiot that said attacks BCP38 would stop don't  
> happen any more?
> (top posted because the thread is already confused)

Sorry for the confusion.

Yes, I am a BCP38 evangelist.  I apologize if it came across wrong.

-- 
TTFN,
patrick


> On Sep 4, 2008, at 10:05 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>> On Sep 4, 2008, at 12:52 PM, Jo Rhett wrote:
>>
>>> Count you which way?  You seem to agree with me.  Everyone should  
>>> be doing both, not discounting BCP38 because they aren't seeing an  
>>> attack right now.
>>
>> No one sees attacks that BCP38 would stop?
>>
>> Wow, I thought things like the Kaminsky bug were big news.  I guess  
>> all that was for nothing?
>>
>> (Yes, I am being sarcastic.  Anyone who thinks attacks which BCP 38  
>> would stop are not happening in the wild is .. I believe the phrase  
>> used was "confused and misinformed".)
>>
>> -- 
>> TTFN,
>> patrick
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 4, 2008, at 9:50 AM, John C. A. Bambenek wrote:
>>>> Count me in.
>>>>
>>>> There is no reason to limit our defenses to the one thing that we
>>>> think is important at one instance in time... attackers change and
>>>> adapt and multimodal defense is simply good policy.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Jo Rhett  
>>>> <jrhett at netconsonance.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sep 4, 2008, at 7:24 AM, James Jun wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Indeed... In today's internet, protecting your own box (cp- 
>>>>>> policer/control
>>>>>> plane filtering) is far more important IMO than implementing  
>>>>>> BCP38 when
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> of attack traffic comes from legitimate IP sources anyway (see  
>>>>>> botnets).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sorry, but nonsense statements such as these burn the  
>>>>> blood.  Sure, yes,
>>>>> protecting yourself is so much more important than protecting  
>>>>> anyone else.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone else want to stand up and join the "I am an asshole" club?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jo Rhett
>>>>> Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open  
>>>>> source and
>>>>> other randomness
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Jo Rhett
>>> Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open  
>>> source and other randomness
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> -- 
> Jo Rhett
> Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source  
> and other randomness
>
>





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