GLBX De-Peers Intercage [Was: RE: Washington Post: Atrivo/Intercag e, w hy are we peering with the American RBN?]

Eric Brunner-Williams brunner at
Tue Sep 2 21:29:07 CDT 2008


In a parallel universe we're considering profiles for "licit use" of 
some mechanism. One element of a multi-part test to distinguish "licit" 
from "illicit" was the presence or absence of known signatures for 
malware. After some thought it was understood that this test was 
equivalent to the node subject to the test being "cleaner" than the 
average for network attached consumer devices, and therefore not realistic.


Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> There's this concept known as "dual criminality" in such situations,
> when you're looking at international prosecutions (or whatever).
> So, while lesé majesté - insult to the king - is a crime in thailand
> (liable to get you lynched before you get prosecuted, at that) that
> doesnt mean the thai authorities can do much about youtube videos ..
> On the other hand, child pornography, malware, illegal sale of
> prescription narcotics etc are generally criminal acts around the
> world.
> regards
> srs
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Steven M. Bellovin <smb at> wrote:
>> I mostly agree with you -- but I get very worried about who defines
>> "scum".  Consider the following cases, which I will assert are not very
>> far-fetched:
>> (a) China labels Falun Gong as "scum" and demands that international
>> ISPs not carry it if they want to do business in China

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