Sprint / Cogent

Brian Raaen braaen at zcorum.com
Fri Oct 31 15:03:07 UTC 2008

I would have to agree with Alex that if behavior like this doesn't stop that 
the Fed would get involved(regardless of which party is in office).  Is this 
type of behavior called 'peer pressure', maybe there are care groups to help 
these victims.  Overall... it is one thing if Sprint and Cogent get into a 
shouting match, it would be a whole other ballpark if say AT&T, Qwest, 
Verizon or Time Warner de-peered.


Brian Raaen
Network Engineer
braaen at zcorum.com

On Friday 31 October 2008, Alex Rubenstein wrote:
> > So why do SPs keep depeering Cogent?  Serious question, why?  I'm not
> > aware of any Intercage-like issues with them.  I've actually considered
> > them as a potential upstream when we expand into a market they serve.
> Because some SP's still have a sour taste in their mouth about what Cogent 
did to the marketplace when they started. If you recall, they were the most 
disturbing force in the transit wars (not to be confused with the cola or 
fast-food wars), when they came out with $3,000 fast-Ethernets, and everyone 
else was enjoying $100+/meg. In my opinion, this was the free market at work, 
and look -- the market as continued to thrive with plenty of competition.
> Not being a customer of either of these guys, I could care less about this. 
While Sprint most certainly has their reasons, I think generally speaking 
people care less about this sort of thing these days. 1239 is certainly not 
the force that they used to be, and they should realize it and stop being 
> Why do I say stupid?
> Because, if companies like Sprint continue to do things like what Sprint is 
doing, this will certainly lead to being noticed by legislators, and the next 
thing we know we will have federally regulated peering or backbone network 
operating. I can see it now, the Bureau of Peering will be part of the 
Federal Networking Committee.
> Does anyone want that? I certainly don't. Again, not because it would overly 
affect me, it's just more regulation which we don't need.
> I'll crawl back under my rock now.

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