The DDOS problem & security BOF: Am i mistaken?

Christopher Morrow morrowc.lists at
Wed Oct 15 20:40:13 UTC 2008

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Warren Kumari <warren at> wrote:
> On Oct 14, 2008, at 12:08 PM, Scott Doty wrote:

>> When a vendor at the security BOF starts showing documents that are
>> "company
>> confidential", and trying to whip up a climate of fear, that we should all
>> deploy their product in front of our recursive name servers, i get this
>> funny feeling that I am being "murk spammed".
> Hmmm... The vendor that you are referring to provides authoritative DNS for
> many domains (and, at least some of them I view as "important", meaning that
> I would prefer a correct response!). Yes, I am sure that he would be happy
> to have you as a customer and, yes, this is feature that differentiates his
> company, but I did not get the impression AT ALL that he was trying to sell
> his service, but rather provide better service to his existing customers,
> even going so far as to provide free devices to people who run large
> recursive resolvers. This helps both his existing customers (who, yes, will
> be more likely to continue using him), but, more importantly helps me as an
> end user feel a little comfortable that the page that I am getting is the
> correct page...

it's probably also worth noting that the person in question has a
history of giving away this sort of protection (in other forms) for
the DNS system... and innovating as a DNS service provider, both for
free (howdy: and for a price.... I'm not sure I'd classify
anything he does as a sales pitch in the venue in question.


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