Joel Jaeggli joelja at
Thu May 29 13:10:40 CDT 2008

Barry Shein wrote:
> On May 29, 2008 at 06:46 joelja at (Joel Jaeggli) wrote:
>  > Dorn Hetzel wrote:
>  > > Yeah, there was a day when anyone could buy a pickup truck full of 
>  > > ammonium nitrate fertilizer from a random feed store and not attract any 
>  > > attention at all, now, maybe not.  Just like port 25, it has plenty of 
>  > > legitimate uses, and some more problematic ones.
>  > 
>  > Equating port 25 use with domestic terrorism is specious.
>  > 
>  > Ammonium nitrate requires requires some care in handling regardless of 
>  > your intentions,see for exmple the oppau or texas city disasters.
> And how different is that from the million+ strong zombie botnets? Who
> owns (not pwns) those zombie'd systems and what were their intentions?

Well let's see. The texas city disaster is/was considered the worst 
industrial accident in american history. 581 people killed by an 
explosive yield of about 2 kilotons. The secondary effects includes 
fires in many of the chemical facilities in Galveston and a swath of 
destruction that reached up to 40 miles inland...

So no, I don't think internet attached hosts can casually equated with 
the destructive potential of a pile of fertilizer at least not in the 
context described.

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