EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re:Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs)
Dustin Jurman
dustin at rseng.net
Mon Jun 23 02:26:31 UTC 2008
We're golden!
DSJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Roland Dobbins [mailto:rdobbins at cisco.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 10:20 PM
To: nanog at merit.edu
Subject: Re: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry?
(Re:Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs)
On Jun 22, 2008, at 11:17 PM, Paul Vixie wrote:
> so, i'm not whining, just pointing out that this is a sea change,
> the end of an era.
And it's even more significant in that large enterprise customers and
others will have explicitly *whitelisted* the IP blocks associated
with these services. While static IPs are available for EC2 and for
the other services, as you point out, it can't last in an IPv4 world.
Later on, as the technologies mature and standards emerge, we'll see
automagic arbitraging of jobs/loads/tasks between clouds, so things
will be even more diffuse in terms of pinpointing the actual sources
of undesirable traffic or other antisocial behavior (e.g., a spam
engine may be resident in one cloud and making use of network
resources/proxies in another cloud, that kind of thing; 'botnets in
the sky', as it were).
This is far different from free email Google or Hotmail - these cloud
services (EC2, Mosso, Slicehost, Terremark's Enterprise Cloud,
Telstra's new service, AppEngine, et.al.) are where many popular new
Internet applications will live, and, even more significantly, where
an increasing amount large-scale enterprise computing (like banking,
pharma, government, and so forth) will take place.
I foresee interesting times ahead.
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