Jay R. Ashworth
jra at baylink.com
Wed Jun 4 12:25:28 CDT 2008
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:10:40AM -0700, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
> Barry Shein wrote:
> > > Equating port 25 use with domestic terrorism is specious.
> > >
> > > Ammonium nitrate requires requires some care in handling regardless of
> > > your intentions,see for exmple the oppau or texas city disasters.
> >And how different is that from the million+ strong zombie botnets? Who
> >owns (not pwns) those zombie'd systems and what were their intentions?
> Well let's see. The texas city disaster is/was considered the worst
> industrial accident in american history. 581 people killed by an
> explosive yield of about 2 kilotons. The secondary effects includes
> fires in many of the chemical facilities in Galveston and a swath of
> destruction that reached up to 40 miles inland...
> So no, I don't think internet attached hosts can casually equated with
> the destructive potential of a pile of fertilizer at least not in the
> context described.
One word: SCADA.
Yes, in point of fact, I think it *is* reasonable to evaluate potential
threats to "just some PCs getting pwned" in terms of physical damage
on grander scales.
It's not just about spam, or fraudulent credit charges.
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