YouTube IP Hijacking
Tomas L. Byrnes
tomb at byrneit.net
Mon Feb 25 00:36:32 UTC 2008
I'm sure we can all find a list of "critical infrastructure" ASes that
could be trusted to peer via the "high priority" AS. I'd say that the
criteria should be:
1: Hosted at a Tier 1 provider.
2: Within a jurisdiction where North American operators have a good
chance of having the law on their side in case of any network outage
caused by the entity.
3: Considered highly competent technically.
4: With state of the art security and operations.
OTOH: I would say that, until today, those who advocate not engaging in
any kind of ethnic or political profiling would have considered 17557,
as a national telco, a trusted route source.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randy Epstein [mailto:repstein at chello.at]
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 4:15 PM
> To: Tomas L. Byrnes; 'Simon Lockhart'
> Cc: 'Michael Smith'; neil.fenemor at fx.net.nz; will at harg.net;
> nanog at merit.edu
> Subject: RE: YouTube IP Hijacking
>
> Tomas L. Byrnes wrote:
>
> > Perhaps certain ASes that are considered "high priority",
> like Google,
> > YouTube, Yahoo, MS (at least their update servers), can be
> trusted to
> > propagate routes that are not aggregated/filtered, so as to
> give them
> > control over their reachability and immunity to longer-prefix
> > hijacking (especially problematic with things like MS update sites).
>
> Not to stir up a huge debate here, but if I were a day
> trader, I could live without YouTube for a day, but not
> e*trade or Ameritrade as it would be my livelihood. If I
> were an eBay seller, why would I care about YouTube? You get
> the idea. What makes Google, YouTube, Yahoo, MS, etc more
> important?
>
> More importantly, why is PCCW not prefix filtering their downstreams?
> Certainly AS17557 cannot be trusted without a filter.
>
> Randy
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Simon Lockhart [mailto:simon at slimey.org]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 2:07 PM
> > To: Tomas L. Byrnes
> > Cc: Michael Smith; neil.fenemor at fx.net.nz; will at harg.net;
> > nanog at merit.edu
> > Subject: Re: YouTube IP Hijacking
> >
> > On Sun Feb 24, 2008 at 01:49:00PM -0800, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote:
> > > Which means that, by advertising routes more specific
> than the ones
> > > they are poisoning, it may well be possible to restore universal
> > > connectivity to YouTube.
> >
> > Well, if you can get them in there.... Youtube tried that,
> to restore
> > service to the rest of the world, and the announcements didn't
> > propogate.
> >
> > Simon
> >
>
>
>
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