[admin] Re: Fourth cable damaged in Middle Eest (Qatar to UAE)
Tomas L. Byrnes
tomb at byrneit.net
Tue Feb 5 01:03:49 UTC 2008
My experience is that a lot of the BB providers route through NAPs/MAEs
when they have local peering. The Internet IS more brittle than it needs
to be, because routing seems to be a lot more static than it should be.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog at merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog at merit.edu] On
> Behalf Of Steve Gibbard
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:39 PM
> To: nanog at merit.edu
> Subject: Re: [admin] Re: Fourth cable damaged in Middle Eest
> (Qatar to UAE)
>
>
> On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Kee Hinckley wrote:
>
> > Which leads me to my operational question.
> >
> > If you know that someone wants to cut your cables. What defense do
> > you have? Is there any practical way to monitor and protect
> an oceanic
> > cable? Are there ways to build them that would make them less
> > discoverable? Some way to provide redundancy? A
> non-physical solution
> > involving underwater repeaters? Or is this like pipelines in Iraq?
>
> The other answer is to be less dependent on the cables.
>
> Some communications need to be long distance -- talking to a
> specific person in a far away place, setting up import/export
> deals, calling tech support -- but a lot don't. E-mailing or
> VOIP calling your neighbors, looking at web sites for local
> businesses, reading your local newspaper or accessing other
> local content, or telecommuting across town, all ought to be
> able to be done locally, without dependence on international
> infrastructure. Yet we keep seeing articles about outages of
> "Internet and long distance telephone" networks, implying
> that this Internet thing we've all been working on is pretty
> fragile compared to the old fashioned phone networks we've
> been trying to replace.
>
> The report from Renesys
> (http://www.renesys.com/blog/2008/02/mediterranean_cable_break
> _part.shtml)
> looks at outages in connectivity to India, Pakistan, Saudi
> Arabia, Kuwait, and Egypt. I'll assume that those areas
> probably did keep some local connectivity. India has its
> NIXI exchanges, although my understanding is that they're not
> as well used as one might hope. Saudi Arabia has a monopoly
> international transit provider, which should have the effect
> of keeping local traffic local. Egypt has an exchange point.
> I don't know about Pakistan or Kuwait. Unfortunately,
> little else works without DNS.
> Pakistan and India have DNS root servers, but Pakistan's .PK
> ccTLD is served entirely from the US. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait,
> and Egypt all have servers for their local ccTLDs, but do not
> have local root DNS servers.
> Of that list, only India has both the root and their ccTLD
> hosted locally.
>
> And then there's the rest of the services people use. Being
> able to get to DNS doesn't help people talk to their
> neighbors if both they and their neighbors are using mail
> services in far away places, for instance.
>
> -Steve
>
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