Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior

Gadi Evron ge at
Thu Aug 28 13:30:19 CDT 2008

Thank you for making your presentation.


On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Anton Kapela wrote:

> I thought I'd toss in a few comments, considering it's my fault that
> few people are understanding this thing yet.
>>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Gadi Evron <ge at> wrote:
>>>> People (especially spammers) have been hijacking networks for a while
> I'd like to 'clear the air' here. Clearly, I failed at Defcon, WIRED,
> AFP, and Forbes.
> We all know sub-prefix hijacking is not news. What is news? Using
> as-path loop detection to selectively blackhole the hijacked route -
> which creates a transport path _back to_ the target.
> That's all it is, nothing more. All but the WIRED follow-up article
> missed this point *completely.* They over-represented the 'hijacking'
> aspects, while only making mention of the 'interception' potential.
> Lets end this thread with the point I had intended two weeks ago:
> we've presented a method by which all the theory spewed by academics
> can be actualized in a real network (the big-I internet) to effect
> interception of data between (nearly) arbitrary endpoints from
> (nearly) any edge or stub AS. That, I think, is interesting.
> -Tk

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