Force10 Gear - Opinions
criling at gmail.com
Tue Aug 26 02:33:37 CDT 2008
"Then again, I've always had a good support experience with Extreme,
but I'm not about to run out and replace my core with Black Diamonds.
I once worked at a place where we had BD 6808's at the core; one of them
consistently had hardware issues, and it took me the better part of a year
of fighting with Extreme to get them to replace the chassis, but when they
did, the problems went away, imagine that. I suppose similar isolated
incidents could happen with anyone occasionally though.
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 3:26 AM, Paul Wall <pauldotwall at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Jo Rhett <jrhett at netconsonance.com>
> >> 1) Reliability
> > Very good. Across our entire business we've lost 1 RPM module in ~2
> How many boxes in total? Losing a single routing engine in two years
> is not a bad MTBF, though I wonder if we're talking about one chassis
> or one thousand.
> >> 2) Performance
> > [Note: we have no 10g interfaces, so I can only speak to a
> > environment]
> > Much higher than Cisco. So good at dealing with traffic problems that we
> > have had multi-gig DoS attacks that we wouldn't have known about without
> > having an IDS running on a mirroring port.
> Routing n*GE at line rate isn't difficult these days, even with all
> 64-byte packets and other "DoS" conditions.
> Linksys, D-Link, SMC, etc are able to pull it off on the layer 3
> switches sold at Fry's for a couple benjamins a pop. :)
> Now mind you, this is all traffic through the router. I'd imagine
> Force 10 would have a problem with traffic aimed at its interface or
> loopback IPs, given their lack of control plane policing/filtering,
> unlike say:
> >> 3) Support staff (how knowledgeable are they?)
> > Significantly higher than Cisco, and escalation is easier. On par with
> > Juniper.
> This is good, though not necessarily hard when you have a small pool
> of TAC people.
> Then again, I've always had a good support experience with Extreme,
> but I'm not about to run out and replace my core with Black Diamonds.
> > These things are so very solid that I rarely spend any time doing network
> > work any more. Gigabit line-speed BCP38 makes life easier for the abuse
> > helpdesk too.
> I'm unaware of any hardware-forwarding-based platforms which can't do this.
> Though if I find any, I'll be sure to steer clear!
> Paul Wall
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