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Suresh Ramasubramanian ops.lists at
Sat Apr 12 02:23:16 UTC 2008

On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 2:34 AM, Barry Shein <bzs at> wrote:
>  The lesson one should get from all this is that the ultimate harm of
>  spammers et al is that they are succeeding in corrupting the idea of a
>  standards-based internet.

The lesson here is that different groups at the same ISPs go to different places

Packet pushers go to *NOG.  And the abuse desks mostly all go to
MAAWG.  And any CERTs / security types the ISP has go to FIRST and
related events.  And most of them never do coordinate internally, run
by different groups probably in different cities ...


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