fiber switch for gig

Wed Apr 9 13:42:47 UTC 2008

I was asked to summarize what I found.  I only had two personal
recommendations based on respondents use/experience, so I don't have much of
a rating to give back to the list.  However, I did do some research as
follows.

Some disclaimers/explanations:

1.    Best Price = no gbics.  Total Price = includes gbics  @ $80/each
(generic brand GBIC, not sure it they work in all models.  I've not had
problems using generic gbics in FC switches.ymmv)

2.    Feature set is my personal subjective rating based on high-level
features important to me.  Your feature-set needs may be different.

3.    Couldn't find RPS info on two switches.  As an alternative, I like to
use Tripplite Digital Power ATS PDUs for all my single-power-supply gear.

4.    There may be additional costs for various feature sets.

5.    Best pricing usually means used/refurbed gear with warranties.  I've
added the base list price (without gbics) if you like shiny new.

6.    No warranties expressed or implied as to the accuracy/completeness of
the info below (I didn't call each manufacturer to verify their
documentation).  If you can clarify any inaccuracies, send me a note
off-list.

7.    I couldn't verify if the Force10 needed gbics or not.two different
documents gave conflicting information, so I assumed worst-case.

8.    No particular ranking is imputed by the table. 

9.    Delete the email rather than complain about the html format.

Product

Feature Set

Ports

Best Price

Price/Port

L2/L3

RPS

Total Price ($80 GBIC)

Total P/P

Base List Price

Ciscos 3750G

High

12

 $ 5,200 

 $   433 

L3

Ext

 $  6,160 

 $   513 

 $ 11,000 

Extreme X450-24x

High

24

 $ 4,700 

 $   196 

L3

Ext

 $  6,620 

 $   276 

 $   6,800 

Force10 S25P

High

24

 $ 5,500 

 $   229 

L3

Int

 $  7,420 

 $   309 

 ?? 

Extreme 11703

High

32

 $ 4,500 

 $   141 

L3

?

 $  7,060 

 $   221 

 $ 20,000 

Foundry FESX424HF

High

24

 $ 9,995 

 $   416 

L3

Int

 $11,915 

 $   496 

 $   9,995 

Alcatel 6850-U24X

Med

24

 $ 3,700 

 $   154 

L3

?

 $  5,620 

 $   234 

 $   4,200 

Dlink DXS-3326GSR

Med

24

 $ 4,400 

 $   183 

L2

Ext

 $  6,320 

 $   263 

 $   4,400 

Zyxel GS-4012F

Med

12

 $    950 

 $     79 

L3

Ext

 $  1,910 

 $   159 

 $       950 

Zyxel GS-3012F

Low

12

 $    650 

 $     54 

L2

Ext

 $  1,610 

 $   134 

 $       650 

Netgear GSM7328FS

Med

24

 $ 2,400 

 $   100 

L3

No

 $  4,320 

 $   180 

 $   2,800 

Netgear GSM7312

Low

12

 $    850 

 $     71 

L3

No

 $  1,810 

 $   151 

 $   1,000 

Dell 6224F

Med

24

 $ 1,999 

 $     83 

L3

Ext

 $  3,919 

 $   163 

 $   1,999 

Telco Systems T5C-24G

High

24

 $ 5,200 

 $   217 

L3

Int

 $  7,120 

 $   297 

 $   5,200 

HP 5406zl

Med

24

 $ 2,650 

 $   110 

L2

Int

 $  4,570 

 $   190 

 $   4,825 

Nortel 5530-24TFD

Med

24

 $ 6,100 

 $   254 

L3

Ext

 $  8,020 

 $   334 

 $   6,100 

Andrew

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Andrew Staples <andrews at ltinet.net> wrote:

Speaking of running gig long distances, does anyone on the list have
suggestions on a >8 port L2 switch with fiber ports based on personal
experience?  Lots of 48 port gig switches have 2-4 fiber uplink ports, but
this means daisy-chains instead of hub/spoke.  Looking for a central switch
for a star topography to home fiber runs that is cost effective and works.

Considering:
DLink DXS-3326GSR
NetGear GSM7312
Foundry SX-FI12GM-4
Zyxel GS-4012F

I realize not all these switches are IEEE 802.3ae, Clause 49 or IEEE 802.3aq
capable.

Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog at merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog at merit.edu] On Behalf Of
Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 5:06 PM
To: Michael Loftis
Cc: frank at dticonsulting.com; michael.dillon at bt.com; nanog at merit.edu
Subject: Re: cooling door

On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:48:47 MDT, Michael Loftis said:

> Yeah except in a lot of areas there is no MAN, and the ILECs want to
> bend you over for any data access.  I've no idea how well the MAN idea
> is coming along in various areas, but you still have to pay for access
> to it somehow, and that adds to overhead.  Which leads to attempt
> efficiency gains through centralization and increased density.

I doubt we'll ever see the day when running gigabit across town becomes cost
effective when compared to running gigabit to the other end of your server
room/cage/whatever.

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