WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6)

Fred Baker fred at cisco.com
Thu Sep 27 21:41:05 UTC 2007

well, if it's any consolation, you're the guy that routinely tells me  
on public mailing lists that anyone that is not an operator, and  
especially senior people from vendor companies, is completely  
clueless on all topics relating to the Internet. I have my days of  
feeling unwelcome too.

Harald was two IETF chairs back. I was three IETF chairs back. You  
offered repeatedly to resign when you and I worked together, and I  
always talked you into staying.

There, we're even. Now, can we please get constructive?

I chair a working group called IPv6 Operations. It's mailing list is  
hosted on your computer - v6ops at ops.ietf.org. The purpose of the  
working group is to provide operators, quite a number of which  
attend, with a place where they can say anything they want and give  
very clear guidance to the IETF. If the operators have anything to  
say on the topic, I don't know how much more clearly the IETF can say  
"we're listening".

Crabbing about it doesn't get it fixed. Help us fix it.

On Sep 27, 2007, at 2:30 PM, Randy Bush wrote:

>> It's not like the operators aren't welcome.
> fred, you are talking to the guy harald alvestrand, ietf chair, fired.
> sorry i was so sensitive that it made me feel unwelcome.
> hint: the operators did not leave because of the bad food.
> randy

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