Juniper M10i sufficient for BGP, or go with M20?

Warren Kumari warren at kumari.net
Wed May 16 04:16:03 UTC 2007


On May 14, 2007, at 7:57 PM, Donald Stahl wrote:

>
>> I'm very happy about the Juniper devices I manage. They're  
>> expensive but
>> very reliable, and their config interface has lots of unique  
>> features.
> Juniper's greatest asset over Cisco is the single software image  
> for all their systems. In my latest purchase that didn't justify  
> paying 4 times as much no matter how much I love the software.

Warren: For me the greatest asset is the stability... the stability  
and performance... The two greatest assets are stability and  
performance... and the fact that the commands that you can type  
actually do something[0].  The *three* greatest assets are stability  
and performance and the fact that the commands that you can type  
actually do something... and the ease of the CLI. The *four"  
greatest ... no ... Amongst their greatest assets are the stability,  
performance, commands that actually DO something, the CLI...... I'll  
come in again.

[Warren exits]

Donald: Juniper's greatest asset over Cisco is the single software  
image for all their systems

[JARRING CHORD]
[Warren bursts in]

Amongst their greatest assets are the stability, performance,  
commands that actually DO something, the ability to actually count  
the bits that you send[1]... and pretty colors - Oh damn!

Warren

[0] -- You haven't lived until you have spent 4 hours in the middle  
of the night trying to figure out why the command that you typed (and  
that shows up in the config) doesn't work -- only to be told "Oh,  
that doesn't exist in this train, you need to upgrade to <inset some  
new version that doesn't include the ability to actually forward  
packets or something else equally critical>, we just reused the same  
parser..."

[1] -- If you haven't run into the "oh, we can either forward packets  
*really* fast, or count them, but not both" answer then you haven't  
been doing this long enough.

P.S: I neither work for, nor hold any stock of either of the above  
companies.



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