[funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd)

Pekka Savola pekkas at netcore.fi
Wed Mar 14 06:26:38 UTC 2007

On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
>> I would like to blame the idiots that decided that of the signal range
>> to be used on copper for dsl, only a certain amount would be dedicated
>> to upload instead of negotiating. What on earth do I want to do with
>> 24Mb down and 1Mb up? Can't I have 12 and 12? Someone please tell me
>> there's a valid reason why the download range couldn't be variable and
>> negotiated and that's it's completely impossible for one to have 20Mb up
>> and 1.5 Mb down.
> VDSL2 ITU G.993.2 supports variable and symmetric negotiation of rates.
> obviously distance is a factor, cause you're down to ~50Mb/s at 1000
> meters.
> at&t and bell south, now at&t and at&t had vdsl rollouts that could in
> theory be upgraded to vdsl2.
> If you were in helsinki, I know Päijät-Hämeen Puhelin (php.fi) would
> sell you 100/24 vdsl2 for around 80euro a month.

As cable was mentioned in earlier posts.. There are also (proprietary) 
solutions leveraging cable for symmetric 10/10 or 100/100 Mbit/s.

One example I'm aware of is Teleste's ETTH technology:

Pekka Savola                 "You each name yourselves king, yet the
Netcore Oy                    kingdom bleeds."
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