The Choice: IPv4 Exhaustion or Transition to IPv6

Stephen Wilcox steve.wilcox at
Thu Jun 28 18:31:55 UTC 2007

On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 01:27:30PM -0400, Aaron Daubman wrote:
> On 6/28/07, chuck goolsbee <chucklist at> wrote:
> >You left out:  The "killer-app."
> >Compelling content *only* available via the alternative technology.
> >The IPv-ONLY google/porn/web/tube/iphone/whatever that enough people
> >want/desire/need/are-willing-to-pay-for to move the network to IPv6.
> I wonder what it would take to convince a major online retailer
> (Amazon?), an auction site (eBay?) or even transaction handlers
> (google checkout, paypal?) to put up v6 portals that offered
> across-the-board (or even select) discounts to customers coming in
> through their v6-only portal?

i presume it would take you to pay for the shortfall plus the cost of their implementing this distinction

> Perhaps I'm simply too naive, but I would imagine that even a small %
> discount (from within the business' profit margin) would be incentive
> enough to get customers to at least start asking how they can get
> access to this cheaper IPv6 portal... (the lengths many people will go
> to to save a little money, often even spending more than they save in
> the process, is amazing in and of itself)

i cant understand why any retailer would limit its access to the marketplace for the sake of an obscure technical argument that their beardy long haired IT guy reckons is a good idea. imagine the board room discussion..

"and this will limit us to only 0.5% of our global market?"

"and we need to by $x,xxx,xxx of new hardware to make this happen?"

"and it will take xxxx man hours at a cost of $xxx,xxx?"

this is the core of my argument here about whether v6 is the obvious solution to v4 depletion - what is the cost to push this technology vs other options. it needs to be cheaper else you are working an uphill battle

> ...I would think it would also cause additional publicity for the
> sites from the ensuing (even if only in the tech community) news
> reporting, and that there may even be future gov't incentives
> (write-off the discount?) for such practices.

well, that may well be worth some $$$ but only if you are the first one! and if i were amazon, i'd say okay i'll do this but i'm only going to list my networking books on this v6 system - i can entertain the technical world, not lose any revenue, incur a minimal cost, and get the marketing points


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