what the heck do i do now?

Wed Jan 31 22:57:21 UTC 2007

bear with me, this appears to be about DNS but it's actually about e-mail.

maps.vix.com has been gone since 1999 or so.  mail-abuse.org is the new thing.
i've tried just about everything to get traffic toward the old domain name to
stop... right now there's a DNAME but it made no real difference.  i've taken
the maps.vix.com domain away.  i've set its NS to "localhost".  i've put long
TTL's on both good and bad data.  the traffic continues.  clearly this is my
pennance for starting MAPS, and i hear you giggling about it, but i need some
advice.  once upon a time, someone more insane than myself wanted to close an
RBL and did so by replacing it with a wildcard entry.  we all hated that since
it caused a lot of mail to bounce.  (all mail that would otherwise have been
received by that RBL's subscribers, in fact.)  it did however have the effect
of causing the subscribers to reconfigure their mailers to stop querying the
now-dead RBL in question.  what's the current thinking on this?

oh and even though this isn't about bgp i can put some numbers in so that it
will seem on-topic.  out of 100K DNS queries received by a vix.com nameserver
(which is about five minutes worth), here are the toptalkers for maps.vix.com.
(and we all know by now that public shaming and notification won't work, i'm
not sure why this is relevant, but it looks good, so here it is.)  "thoughts?"

2208 68.216.187.10
2156 192.106.1.99
1348 213.239.240.162
1024 192.106.1.100
 808 192.106.1.1
 742 216.156.2.29
 659 216.55.144.5
 594 192.203.136.10
 592 80.247.227.1
 556 24.111.1.180
 535 217.18.160.2
 523 87.127.246.222
 438 192.106.1.9
 430 192.203.136.1
 384 69.20.2.227
 378 213.249.17.10
 355 87.98.222.35
 353 216.218.185.16
 331 213.251.136.18
 319 72.41.223.229
 274 216.65.0.148
 264 61.194.193.9
 257 200.75.51.132
 251 213.234.128.211
 248 213.251.134.167
 222 69.38.230.2
 208 219.232.224.89
 193 213.249.17.11
 178 200.75.51.133
 175 204.212.38.12
 170 209.244.4.235
 167 211.5.1.220
 158 200.62.191.36
 150 195.178.70.10
 147 212.125.128.91
 147 192.247.72.254
 145 202.180.64.9
 144 216.46.201.220
 135 164.164.149.13
 134 203.97.32.3
 132 66.98.240.151
 129 84.14.44.250
 122 206.40.201.230
 118 195.14.50.1
 108 211.5.1.219
 102 64.234.192.7
  98 66.235.216.48
  88 200.205.163.168
  85 69.20.2.243
  85 69.20.2.231
  85 146.83.183.94
  80 202.239.113.18
  79 199.60.229.4
  79 140.186.4.4
  78 68.125.191.131
  78 203.97.32.5
  72 80.88.192.200
  71 192.189.54.17
  70 82.210.64.18
  69 217.106.235.214
  68 202.229.192.20
  66 202.154.3.2
  64 217.19.24.18
  61 213.203.124.146
  61 195.96.33.249
  57 168.95.1.128
  56 203.94.129.130
  56 200.69.193.111
  56 168.95.1.133
  55 72.3.128.125
  54 168.95.1.145
  53 216.231.41.2
  53 210.119.192.6
  52 203.141.32.247
  52 168.95.1.132
  50 80.80.231.223
  50 204.145.230.31
  49 213.225.90.203
  48 61.129.66.75
  48 38.115.131.10
  47 195.220.32.99
  46 64.60.208.40
  46 207.12.35.170
  46 168.95.1.129
  46 168.95.1.126
  44 212.42.168.116
  44 209.128.208.11
  44 168.95.1.148
  43 84.14.176.166
  43 200.62.191.38
  43 154.11.147.2
  42 168.95.1.144
  41 168.95.1.131
  41 168.95.1.127
  40 81.240.254.45
  40 218.223.31.252
  40 209.82.111.202
  39 69.20.2.237
  39 217.22.50.3
  39 211.72.171.75
  39 131.188.3.89
  38 203.166.97.12
  38 199.201.145.162
  38 168.95.1.147
  38 12.98.160.66
  37 69.36.241.228
  37 168.95.1.146
  37 131.130.199.155
  36 200.31.192.18
  34 216.174.17.6
  34 209.61.163.233
  34 200.207.88.142
  34 168.95.1.92
  32 80.247.228.1
  32 69.60.117.147
  31 67.18.97.50
  30 202.175.151.10
  27 168.95.1.99
  26 216.127.136.207
  26 212.245.255.2
  26 195.2.96.2
  25 216.244.191.38
  25 212.86.129.142
  25 199.64.0.252
  24 212.55.197.117
  24 199.166.210.2
  24 154.11.136.2
  23 216.65.0.156
  23 198.63.210.55
  23 194.204.0.1
  22 202.134.64.12
  21 84.22.6.100
  21 211.125.124.33
  21 203.198.7.66
  21 203.144.168.6
  21 203.116.1.94
  21 202.96.102.3
  21 158.234.250.70
  20 65.106.2.117
  20 213.191.73.65
  19 66.77.137.9
  19 64.65.208.6
  19 64.122.97.116
  19 203.23.72.2
  19 194.106.218.42
  17 80.255.128.145
  17 168.95.192.81
  16 194.242.40.3
  16 168.95.192.83
  15 69.20.2.225
  15 210.104.1.13
  15 207.7.4.66
  15 207.218.192.26
  15 207.106.1.2
  15 168.95.192.89
  15 168.95.192.84
  15 140.123.181.1
  14 217.10.104.109
  14 216.145.96.10
  14 212.45.26.98
  14 210.238.234.242
  14 210.236.36.2
  14 193.50.240.2
  14 193.225.16.111
  14 168.95.192.86
  14 150.186.1.1
  13 24.96.32.18
  13 218.232.110.37
  13 213.130.10.10
  13 202.237.13.66
  13 161.142.201.17
  12 168.95.192.80
  11 62.252.64.17
  11 213.171.195.168
  11 211.125.124.34
  11 210.253.165.8
  11 203.30.161.1
  11 202.45.84.68
  10 216.127.136.213
  10 212.49.128.65
  10 203.10.110.104
  10 202.134.99.162
  10 192.114.65.50
  10 168.95.192.88
  10 168.95.192.85
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